things are being done to us, not with us. there is an unlimited, untapped possibilities to do extraordinary things. it is not just about financial capital. it is about human capital, people forming connections, seeing things differently. i want to argue for that, but in the absence of its manifestations, i want to create a different constructs of active participation, folks doing things in partnership with government that government use to do exclusively but is no longer committing to do. tavis: i keep saying gavin. you are the lieutenant governor. we have been friends for so long. i saw a piece on politico where you were talking specifically about poverty, and i am paraphrasing, and you said that poverty is going to be our greatest regret. how does poverty complicate this process buses and the engagement, when poor people of is the lack of resources, opportunity, time, and by access, i mean internet access, etc.? how does poverty complicates this process? >> it is significant. it has been mitigated by these devices, and i wi